Breakdown of All Super Bowl Winning Quarterbacks

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Super Bowl winning quarterbacks are classified as elite regardless of stature, efficiency, draft status, length of career or where they went to college. So, why do so many of those categories play such a significant role in the draft process or whether or not they get a chance to start in the NFL?

First Super Bowl winning quarterback, Bart Starr

Bryan Bartlett “Bart” Starr won 5 NFL championships  prior to becoming the first ever Super Bowl winning quarterback in 1967. He was the starting quarterback at Alabama as a sophomore, but was injured and/or benched his final two collegiate seasons.

Bart Starr didn’t have the prototypical size (6-1), he wasn’t drafted in the 1st round either. In fact, he was a 17th round draft pick; which in the modern NFL, would translate as an undrafted player. So, how is it that he is the only QB in NFL history with 7 championships to his credit and the only QB to win 3 in a row?  Above and beyond that, he is a 2 time Super Bowl MVP, in the Hall of Fame, and still to this day has the highest post season passer rating in NFL history, (104.8). So much for the standard philosophy.

In this post I wanted to take a close look at every Super Bowl winning quarterback in NFL history, answer some oft asked questions, and at the same time, evaluate the efficiency of the discriminatory, stereotypical guidelines used by many  NFL scouts, general managers and the mainstream media.

In doing so, I made an amazing discovery that makes me wonder how many Bart Starr’s never got a chance in the NFL because they didn’t pass the eye test for the prototypical intangibles scouts look for. The other amazing discovery, was how many Super Bowl winning quarterbacks had pretty much no impact at all in determining the outcome of the game. In some cases, enhanced the chances of losing by not  passing for a single TD and having one or more Interceptions in the game.

The typical standards for drafting a QB are as follows.

Height:  6’3”

Weight:  215 lbs

40-yd Dash:  4.9 sec

Arm Length:  31”

Hand Span:  9”

Intelligence:  Superior

Characteristics:

Toughness, Intelligence, Arm Strength, Poise, Decision-making, Accuracy, Anticipation, Confidence, Work ethic, Leadership Ability.

Ironically, the average height of an NFL quarterback is 6’3″ tall. But, how many of the characteristics apply? From my research, I have learned that size and arm strength tend to outweigh all of the others.

Super Bowl Winning Quarterbacks:

Bart Starr first super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 1. Bart Starr (MVP), 2 TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-1 193
Team: Green Bay Packers
Draft Round 17

Bart Starr first super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 2. Bart Starr (MVP), 1 TD

 

Height|Weight: 6-1 193
Team: Green Bay Packers
Draft: Round 17

joe namathSuper Bowl 3. Joe Namath (MVP), 0 TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-2 201

Team: NY Jets|LA Rams

Draft: Round 1

len dawsonSuper Bowl 4. Len Dawson (MVP), 1 TD

 

Height|Weight: 6-0 193
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers|Cleveland Browns|Dallas Texans|KC Chiefs
Draft: Round 1

john unitas super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 5. John Unitas (Chuck Howley), 1 TD

 

Height|Weight: 6-1 196
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers|Baltimore Colts|SD Chargers
Draft: Round 9

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roger staubach super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 6. Roger Staubach (MVP), 2 TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-3 197
Team: Dallas Cowboys
Draft: Round 10

bob grieseSuper Bowl 7. Bob Griese (Jake Scott), 1 TD

 

 Height Weight: 6-1 190

Team: Miami Dolphins

Draft: Round 1

bob grieseSuper Bowl 8. Bob Griese (Larry Csonka), 0 TDs

 

Height Weight: 6-1 190
Team: Miami Dolphins
Draft: Round 1

terry bradshaw super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 9. Terry Bradshaw (Franco Harris), 1 TD

 

Height|Weight: 6-3 218

Team: Pittsburgh Steelers

Draft: Round 1

terry bradshaw super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 10. Terry Bradshaw (Lynn Swann), 2 TDs

Height|Weight: 6-3 218
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Draft: Round 1

 

 

ken stablerSuper Bowl 11. Ken Stabler (Fred Biletnikoff), 1 TD

 

Height|Weight: 6-4 215
Team: Oakland Raiders|Houston Oilers|New Orleans Saints
Draft: Round 2

roger staubach super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 12. Roger Staubach (Harvey Martin & Randy White), 0 TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-3 197
Team: Dallas Cowboys
Draft: Round 10

terry bradshaw super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 13. Terry Bradshaw (MVP), 4 TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-3 218

Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Draft: Round 1

terry bradshaw super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 14. Terry Bradshaw (MVP), 2 TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-3 218
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Draft: Round 1

jim plunkett super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 15. Jim Plunkett (MVP), 3 TDs

 

Height Weight: 6-3 220
Team: New England Patriots|SF 49ers|Oakland/LA Raiders
Draft: Round 1

joe montana super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 16. Joe Montana (MVP), 1 TD

 

Height|Weight: 6-2 205

Team: SF 49ers|KC Chiefs

Draft: Round 3

joe theismanSuper Bowl 17. Joe Theismann (John Riggins), 2 TDs,

 

Height|Weight: 6-0 192
Team: Miami Dolphins Toronto Argonauts|Washington Redskins
Draft: Round 4

jim plunkettSuper Bowl 18. Jim Plunkett (Marcus Allen), 1 TD

 

Height|Weight: 6-3 220
Team: NE Patriots| SF 49ers|Oakland/LA Raiders
Draft: Round 1

joe montana super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 19. Joe Montana (MVP), 3 TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-2 205
Team: SF 49ers|KC Chiefs
Draft: Round 3

jim mcmahonSuper Bowl 20. Jim McMahon (Richard Dent), 0 TDs

 

Height Weight: 6-1 195
Team: Bears|Chargers|Eagles|Vikings|Cardinals|Browns|Packers
Draft: Round 1

phil simms super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 21. Phil Simms (MVP), 3 TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-3 216
Team: NY Giants
Draft: Round 1

doug williamsSuper Bowl 22. Doug Williams (MVP), 4 TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-4 220
Team: TB Buccaneers|Oklahoma/Arizona Outlaws|Washington Redskins
Draft: Round 1

joe montana super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 23. Joe Montana (Jerry Rice), 2 TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-2 205
Team: SF 49ers|KC Chiefs
Draft: Round 3

joe montana super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 24. Joe Montana (MVP), 5 TDs

 

 Height|Weight: 6-2 205

Team: SF 49ers|KC Chiefs
Draft: Round 3

jeff hostetlerSuper Bowl 25. Jeff Hostetler (Ottis Anderson), 1 TD

 

Height|Weight: 6-3 215
Team: NY Giants|LA/Oakland Raiders|Washington Redskins
Draft: Round 3

mark rypienSuper Bowl 26. Mark Rypien (MVP), 2 TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-4 225
Team: Redskins|Browns|Rams|Eagles|Falcons|Colts|seahawks|Rochester Raiders
Draft: Round 6

troy aikman super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 27. Troy Aikman (MVP), 4 TDs

 

Height Weight: 6-4 220
Team: Dallas Cowboys
Draft: Round 1

troy aikman super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 28. Troy Aikman (Emmitt Smith), O TDs

 

Height Weight: 6-4 220
Team: Dallas Cowboys
Draft: Round 1

steve youngSuper Bowl 29. Steve Young (MVP), 6 TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-2 215
Team: LA Express|TB Buccaneers|SF 49ers
Draft: NFL undrafted|Supplemental USFL/CFL round 1

troy aikman super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 30. Troy Aikman (Larry Brown), 1 TD

 

Height Weight: 6-4 220
Team: Dallas Cowboys
Draft: Round 1

brett favre super bowl winning quarterback

Super Bowl 31. Brett Favre (Desmond Howard), 2 TDs

 

Height Weight: 6-2 222
Team: Atlanta Falcons|GB Packers|NY Jets|Minnesota Vikings
Draft: Round 2

john elwaySuper Bowl 32. John Elway (Terrell Davis), 0 TDs

 

Height Weight: 6-3 215
Team: Denver Broncos
Draft: Round 1

john elwaySuper Bowl 33. John Elway (MVP), 1 TD

 

Height Weight: 6-3 215
Team: Denver Broncos
Draft: Round 1

kurt warner super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 34. Kurt Warner (MVP), 2 TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-2 214
Team: Packers|Iowa Barnstormers|Amsterdam Admirals|Rams|Cardinals
Draft: Undrafted

trent dilferSuper Bowl 35. Trent Dilfer (Ray Lewis), 1 TD

 

Height|Weight: 6-4 247
team: Buccaneers|Ravens|Seahawks|Browns|49ers
Draft: Round 1

tom brady super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 36. Tom Brady (MVP), 1 TD

 

Height|Weight: 6-4 225
Team: NE Patriots
Draft: Round 6

brad johnsonSuper Bowl 37. Brad Johnson (Dexter Jackson), 2 TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-5 238
Team: Vikings|London Monarchs| Redskins|Buccaneers|Cowboys
Draft: Round 9

tom brady super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 38. Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-4 225
Team: NE Patriots
Draft: Round 6

tom brady super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 39. Tom Brady (Deion Branch), 2 TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-4 225
Team: NE Patriots
Draft: Round 6

ben roethlisberger super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs

 

Height Weight: 6-5 241
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Draft: Round 1

peyton manningSuper Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD

 

Height|Weight: 6-5 235
Team: Indianapolis Colts|Denver Broncos
Draft: Round 1

eli manning super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-4 218
Team: NY Giants
Draft: Round 1

ben roethlisberger super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD

 

Height Weight: 6-5 241
Team: Pittsburgh Steelers
Draft: Round 1

drew brees & kellen moore almost identicalSuper Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-0 209
Team: SD Chargers|N.O Saints
Draft: Round 2

aaron rodgers super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 45: Aaron Rogers (MVP), 3TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-2 225
Team: GB Packers
Draft: Round 1

eli manning super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 46: Eli Manning (MVP), 1 TD

 

Height|Weight: 6-4 218
Team: NY Giants
Draft: Round 1

joe flaccoSuper Bowl 47: Joe Flacco (MVP), 3TDs

 

Height|Weight: 6-6 245
Team: Baltimore Ravens
Draft: Round 1

russell wilson super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 48: Russell Wilson, 2TDs

 

Height|Weight: 5-11 206
Team: Seattle Seahawks
Draft: Round 3

tom brady super bowl winning quarterbackSuper Bowl 49. Tom Brady, (MVP) 4 Tds

 

Height|Weight: 6-4 225
Team: NE Patriots
Draft: Round 6

How many of the 49 Super Bowls were won by QBs who didn’t meet the size guidelines of at at least 6′-3″ tall?

There were 19 Super Bowls won by QBs who were under 6-3. The QBs include: Russell Wilson (5-11, the smallest QB to ever win a Lombardi), Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Kurt Warner, Brett Favre, Steve Young, Joe Montana, Jim McMahon, Joe Theisman, Bob Griese, Johnny Unitas, Len Dawson, Joe Namath, and Bart Starr. Wow, there are some pretty heavy duty names on that list. They are not only Super Bowl winning quarterbacks, but many are among the best in NFL history. I really don’t think size matters a whole lot.

How many Super Bowls were won by 1st round picks?

There were 23 Super Bowls won by 1st round picks. When you consider 4 by Terry Bradshaw, 2 by Eli Manning, 3 by Troy Aikman, 2 by John Elway, 2 by Ben Roethlisberger and 2 by Bob Griese: only 10 1st round picks have ever won a Super Bowl.

How Many Super Bowls were won by 2nd round picks?

There were 3 Super Bowls won by 2nd round picks: Kenny Stabler, Brett Favre, Drew Brees.

How many Super Bowls were won by 3rd round picks?

There were 6 Super Bowls won by 3rd round picks: Russell Wilson (1), Jeff Hostetler (1), and Joe Montana (4),

How many Super Bowls were won by mid round to undrafted QBs?

There were 14 Super Bowls won by mid round to undrafted players: Tom Brady (4), Brad Johnson (1), Kurt Warner(1), Steve Young (1), Mark Rypien (1), Joe Theisman (1), Roger Staubach (2), Johny Unitas (1), Bart Starr (2).

How many Super Bowls were won by players who were not 1st round picks and didn’t meet the size guidelines?

There were 14 Super Bowls won by players who were not 1st round picks and didn’t meet the size guidelines: Russell Wilson (1), Drew Brees (1), Kurt Warner (1), Brett Favre (1), Steve Young (1), Joe Montana (4), Jim McMahon (1), Joe Theisman (1), Johnny Unitas (1) and Bart Starr (2).

All time career passer rating leadersHow many Mid round to undrafted players are top 10 all time in Career passer rating?

There are 5 Mid round to undrafted players and 1 second round pick (Drew Brees) in the top 10: Tony Romo (undrafted), Steve Young (undrafted), Tom Brady (6th Round), Kurt Warner (Undrafted), Joe Montana (3rd round). So let me see if I got this straight: 3 undrafted players and a 6th round pick are among the most efficient QBs of all time? Only 4 of them are 1st round picks? 5 of them don’t meet the size guidelines? The most rings on the list belong to a 6th round pick and a 3rd round pick?  Golllly Sarge!

After spending hours on my research and completing the tedious task of not only typing up all of this info, but formatting it as well, my findings only further prove what I have been saying for years. There are a whole lot of NFL scouts and GMs that should be at the bus station.

Tom Brady weighing in at the NFL combine
Tom Brady weighing in at the NFL combine

I have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, that size doesn’t matter, and especially where a player was drafted doesn’t matter.

I really can’t help but wonder: how many NFL scouts and GMs have robbed future Hall of Fame players of a chance in the NFL because they didn’t pass the eye test for size and/or athleticism.

It’s a good thing Bill Belichick didn’t listen to the scouts who based their reason for not wanting Tom Brady on what they saw in the image to the left. There are 31 GMs who took one look at him and said no way. I am willing to bet that Kellen Moore would be on that list of the top 10 most efficient QBs in NFL history if given the chance.

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  • Nice Job! I can’t even imagine how much time you put in to this story. The fcts speak for themselves.

  • Nice Job! I can’t even imagine how much time you put in to this story. The fcts speak for themselves.

  • Californy

    I not a fan of the qb.  I am a fan of a team that works together to win
    in most games.  Unfortunately this Cowboys team has been build to win
    by Romo or bust.  It too bad too because even when Romo plays well, he
    seldom get blame when his team loses in those games

  • Californy

    I not a fan of the qb.  I am a fan of a team that works together to win
    in most games.  Unfortunately this Cowboys team has been build to win
    by Romo or bust.  It too bad too because even when Romo plays well, he
    seldom get blame when his team loses in those games

  • Californy

    In last year SB a game manager won the game.  If you recall Brady number he played it really safe.  Brady took advantage of the underneath coverage and expose The Seahawks where there were the weakest too, at connecting on 37 of 53 safest passes he threw

  • Californy

    Football for me is won in the trenches, at the Offensive and defensive side of the ball.  In last year SB Seahhalks trusted the arm of the 32 rated qb in Wilson vs the best runner in The NFL in yards after contact to get 1 yard.

  • Californy

    Football for me is won in the trenches, at the Offensive and defensive side of the ball.  In last year SB Seahhalks trusted the arm of the 32 rated qb in Wilson vs the best runner in The NFL in yards after contact to get 1 yard.

  • Californy

    Nice Article BTW Al, you been right on on your analysis and football comment.  Keep up the Good Work

  • gcarr1213

    It wasn’t just the size issue for Brady. His tape wasn’t good. To be honest he probably shouldn’t have been drafted, but because he went to the Pats and due to Belichek finally getting tired of Bledsoe, Brady got a shot.

  • gcarr1213

    It wasn’t just the size issue for Brady. His tape wasn’t good. To be honest he probably shouldn’t have been drafted, but because he went to the Pats and due to Belichek finally getting tired of Bledsoe, Brady got a shot.

  • gcarr1213

    Dallas other than Troy Aikman haven’t drafted QB in round. Staubach and Romo are the best QB in Cowboys history and both were late round picks or UD. And Meredith and White weren’t bad either, and they weren’t first round QB.

  • gcarr1213

    Dallas other than Troy Aikman haven’t drafted QB in round. Staubach and Romo are the best QB in Cowboys history and both were late round picks or UD. And Meredith and White weren’t bad either, and they weren’t first round QB.

  • Californy

    I wished we could recreate or Clone Roger.  I heard he won 75% of the games he played in.  What strange is Romo was on this pace to early in his career, but unlike Roger and Aikman, Tony has to do more with a lot less

  • gcarr1213

    Californy I don’t agree. Romo makes the team special, but if Dallas even had a quality backup instead of the trash in Weeden and Cassel. I bet we win more. I said that if we had Kitna or Orton I guarantee that we are at least 3-2, maybe 4-1. Whoever said Weeden would be a good backup should be fired. I bet it was Wade Wilson who I wanted fired long ago.

  • Californy

    gcarr1213 I believe the qb coach in Brady career is what made and save his NFL Career at Charlie Weis

  • Californy

    gcarr1213 I believe the qb coach in Brady career is what made and save his NFL Career at Charlie Weis

  • gcarr1213

    Californy Roger was the man, I still say he’s the best QB we ever had, and is a top 5 QB all time. But I do agree Romo wasn’t surrounded by the talent Aikman and Roger had.

  • gcarr1213

    Californy Roger was the man, I still say he’s the best QB we ever had, and is a top 5 QB all time. But I do agree Romo wasn’t surrounded by the talent Aikman and Roger had.

  • gcarr1213

    Californy gcarr1213 I agree with this. But just his tape alone didn’t impress me when he came out. He just wasn’t that good, he just really stepped up his play. Along with the scouting department finding good talent.

  • gcarr1213

    Californy gcarr1213 I agree with this. But just his tape alone didn’t impress me when he came out. He just wasn’t that good, he just really stepped up his play. Along with the scouting department finding good talent.

  • gcarr1213 Californy Gosh gcarr: I haven’t seen you in forever

  • gcarr1213 Californy Gosh gcarr: I haven’t seen you in forever

  • gcarr1213

    CowgirlCas22 gcarr1213 Californy Been very busy, but also very pissed off at my Cowboys being as pathetic as they have been under Weeden.

  • gcarr1213 Californy They have a great backup in Moore and if Linehan had his way, he would be playing right now

  • gcarr1213 CowgirlCas22 Californy we are all pist off

  • gcarr1213

    CowgirlCas22 gcarr1213 Californy I wasn’t discrediting Moore, but Orton’s or Kitna’s talent level is more than enough to win the games that we lost. Only one I say we still lose was the Pats, even though our D played lights out early on. At least Kitna and Orton would throw down the field.

  • Californy

    gcarr1213 I am a strong believe the less a qb does for a team the better he is.  I dont expect qb to have to win games, just manage the offense and score TD in the Red zone.  The strong  team Romo has around him, the less at  he need to do to win.  Last year was a prime example of that 31th in Pass attempts and number 1 in qb efficiency.  The efficiency was part of a good team mates pulling more weight of their own last year

  • gcarr1213 CowgirlCas22 Californy The worst thing we cn do is treust Jerral to draft a QB lol

  • gcarr1213

    CowgirlCas22 gcarr1213 Californy Not just draft but develop with Wilson as our QB coach who has only poached established QB from other teams.

  • gcarr1213

    CowgirlCas22 gcarr1213 Californy Not to mention the other QB i liked in the upcoming draft just broke his hand, in Carson Wentz so that isn’t good.

  • Californy

    What amaze me about Brady, is he was a part time starter in College ball.  Even Cassel look good in their system having never played in a college game.

  • gcarr1213 CowgirlCas22 Californy Moore is probably a better QB coach lol

  • gcarr1213

    CowgirlCas22 gcarr1213 Californy I honestly wouldn’t doubt that. My disdain for Wilson is well known.

  • Californy

    I believe we need an outside consultant on the qb position just to get past JJ meddling ways.  John Gruden would work for me as a consultant.

  • gcarr1213 CowgirlCas22 Californy That sux

  • gcarr1213 CowgirlCas22 Californy Mine is too

  • gcarr1213

    Californy Our QB consultant is just as bad as whoever evaluates CB on this football team.

  • Californy Gruden would say start Moore. He loved him on his QB camp

  • gcarr1213

    The NFC East QB suck currently with the best one being Eli Manning. I don’t doubt our defense in this game unless our offense yet again can’t move the football ball. The defense hasn’t been the bad part, it’s been the offense. Despite our rushing attack not being up to par we haven’t rushed for 100 yards in only one game and that was against the Giants. Even with that our RB simply don’t have the vision or patience to run in this scheme or really any scheme.

  • Californy

    I love some creativity in the qb and OC position, That why how Landry attack in his offensive scheme back in his days.  Landry understood how to attack defenses, that came from coaching the position himself.

  • gcarr1213 Californy Our scots suck at drafting QBs and DB’s

  • gcarr1213

    Californy Landry knew how to do whatever he wanted, he was ahead of his time.

  • Californy

    The NFC east equal the NFC Least right now.

  • gcarr1213

    CowgirlCas22 gcarr1213 Californy So far Jones is the exception along with Scanderick. I don’t know if Patmon fits in that category, still think he will be a solid CB in the league. They stole one in White from the Saints though.

  • gcarr1213 we have said that all along

  • Californy

    CowgirlCas22 Californy If I do recall that vdeo Cas, I think Moore was schooling Gruden, lol

  • Californy CowgirlCas22 he was

  • Californy CowgirlCas22 he was

  • gcarr1213

    CowgirlCas22 gcarr1213 So to have 100 rushing yards, despite our RB sucking, says a lot about how poor not only the QB has been, but also the gameplan. When I watch the game it sure seems like we rush for a lot less.

  • gcarr1213

    CowgirlCas22 gcarr1213 So to have 100 rushing yards, despite our RB sucking, says a lot about how poor not only the QB has been, but also the gameplan. When I watch the game it sure seems like we rush for a lot less.

  • gcarr1213

    CowgirlCas22 gcarr1213 Sorry playcalling not gameplan, but that sucks too.

  • gcarr1213 CowgirlCas22 Californy we said that from the beginning

  • Californy

    This year draft is going to be very interesting in so many ways ,many Good player are out already on the season, many who may go to the NFL too

  • Californy NE has the best coaching in the NFL and it shows

  • gcarr1213

    Ronald Leary hasn’t played well thus far though. But with that said if he played for another team or we didn’t have Collins he would probably still be starting.

  • gcarr1213

    Californy I am looking at 1 tech DT right now. Probably a lost cause though, since we don’t draft them. Most people know A’Shawn Robinson from Alabama, but I think his teammate Jarron Reed who is also a DT might be better.

  • Californy

    CowgirlCas22 Californy

  • gcarr1213 CowgirlCas22 Californy Kitna was a seasoned veteran and long term starter.

  • Californy

    How I wished we had our third rd Pick back right now, we could of had a starting player on defense right now with the right pick

  • gcarr1213

    Californy Which third round pick. I don’t remember trading our 3rd round pick away.

  • gcarr1213 CowgirlCas22 a lot of it is not getting creative with Bease

  • gcarr1213 CowgirlCas22 yup

  • Californy

    gcarr1213  I am a strong believer we needed to run the player into shape with a team more committed to a run game.  This should of started in the preseason

  • gcarr1213 Californy That’s why he is the only coach with 20 consecutive winning seasons

  • gcarr1213

    CowgirlCas22 gcarr1213 Not just Bease, but Weeden didn’t trust Witten to catch the ball apparently. 31 other starting QB would make Witten their primary receiver most of the time especially on third and short. A QB who doesn’t trust Witten should’ve been benched the first game.

  • gcarr1213

    CowgirlCas22 gcarr1213 Californy I thought Beliechek tied it last year, but even if he did Landry didn’t need to cheat to get there.

  • Californy landry is the only coach who ever designed and coached his own offense, defense and special teams

  • gcarr1213

    Californy gcarr1213 We are committed to the run, but the QB play has hurt the run game, but also the RB not seeing the right holes either. Hopefully Michael does it.

  • gcarr1213

    CowgirlCas22 Californy I really can’t imagine how tired he must have been doing all that.

  • gcarr1213 CowgirlCas22 Californy Belichick has 15 consecutive winning seasons

  • gcarr1213

    CowgirlCas22 gcarr1213 Californy Ok 15 then. Still a lot though. I think only one other coach in any sports history to come close to what Landry did is Greg Poppivich in the NBA for the Spurs who has 18 I think.

  • gcarr1213 CowgirlCas22 Linehan has to dumb down his offense for the QB

  • gcarr1213

    CowgirlCas22 gcarr1213 More than just dumb down. He has to make it simple enough that even a child can run it. And apparently Weeden is worse than a child, maybe he should have listened to the 12 year old who called him out on Twitter. lol

  • Californy yup

  • gcarr1213 Californy it was wasted on Chaz Green: I would have drafted a RB or WR there

  • gcarr1213 Californy I liked what i saw from Michael

  • gcarr1213

    CowgirlCas22 gcarr1213 Californy Oh ok. I was about to get really upset if we traded away a third round pick for some scrub. I never liked Green, I had a 5th round grade on him before I found out about his injury history. I wanted Lockett in round 3 for our return game.

  • gcarr1213 Californy I want Armand Nance

  • gcarr1213

    CowgirlCas22 gcarr1213 Californy As long as he controls his fumbling. He didn’t fumble a lot, but a lot of the time when he hit the ground the ball was squeezing out.

  • gcarr1213 CowgirlCas22 Californy good point

  • gcarr1213

    CowgirlCas22 gcarr1213 Californy I couldn’t find Armand Nance on CBS sports. They normally have all the players.

  • gcarr1213 CowgirlCas22 Californy al has him as a returner in fantasy and he is kicking ass

  • Californy

    gcarr1213 Californy Didnt we draft a OL with that Pick out of Florida

  • gcarr1213 CowgirlCas22 Californy gosh I know

  • gcarr1213

    Californy gcarr1213 Yes unforunately.

  • gcarr1213 CowgirlCas22 Californy he was there when I looked

  • gcarr1213

    CowgirlCas22 gcarr1213 Californy He’s a DT, can’t find him.

  • gcarr1213 CowgirlCas22 Californy I think they had him listed as a DE: 5tech

  • Californy

    Locket is going to be a player.  I beleive Tyler Montgomery will be a good player too in Green bay

  • gcarr1213

    I have a feeling Dallas is either going to add George Iloka the SS from Cincy or Doug Martin the RB from Tampa to add to their Boise St. collection in FA.

  • Californy

    CowgirlCas22 gcarr1213 I think Green bay and NE have a undrafted DT getting playing time right now.  It good to see your draft picks making impact in year one of the NFL

  • gcarr1213 CowgirlCas22 Californy wow you’re right he isn’t there

  • gcarr1213 CowgirlCas22 Californy wow you’re right he isn’t there

  • Californy

    George LLota was a player Cas mention before, they should of listen to her years ago, lol

  • Californy

    George LLota was a player Cas mention before, they should of listen to her years ago, lol

  • Californy

    I love to steal some DB from the rich talented cardinals in FA

  • Californy

    I love to steal some DB from the rich talented cardinals in FA

  • gcarr1213

    Californy He took a while to come on, but he finally broke out a little last year and is doing well this year. We need an upgrade at SS. I like Cravens the SS from USC a lot, but he’s a first rounder, and I would like to go CB in round 1 if possible. Or get a playmaker LB.

  • gcarr1213 CowgirlCas22 it’s one of the main reasons he wants Moore in there: he is brilliant

  • gcarr1213

    Californy Tony Jefferson their SS is a FA. He’s pretty good, Illoka is just better. Not sure how much he would cost though, but SS normally don’t make a whole lot.

  • Californy they are loaded there

  • Californy

    Cardinal best CB is the one who never get the talk about.  The player I am thinking is a CB not a safety.  I like Tony Jefferson also, he beaten 2 first rd draft Safety so far, as a undrafted player

  • gcarr1213 Californy I still wish jerry kept sendejo over church he is balling in Minny

  • Californy

    I am out, keep up the smack

  • gcarr1213

    Californy You might be thinking of Jerrod Powers who is their 3rd CB.

  • Californy bye californy

  • gcarr1213

    I would really like to get a SS to pair with Byron when Byron is ready to take FS duties full time. Until then I like him in his role now in taking out the TE from the game.

  • gcarr1213 Californy my sleeper Skrine ended up solid

  • gcarr1213

    I’m out too.

  • gcarr1213 bye Gabe me too lol

  • gcarr1213

    Only issue with Illoka is tackling. He isn’t bad, but too many times I see the runner get an extra yard. He’s too big to get carried. But he’s not bad in that area. Surprisingly he covers well for a 6’4″ guy.

  • gcarr1213 another Boise product lol Their only OL in the NFL is Den center