Do the Fans Have any Hope With Brandon Weeden?

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Brandon Weeden being signed by the Dallas Cowboys could prove to be the worst move the Cowboys made this offseason.

Brandon Weeden

The now 30 year old Brandon Weeden is 5-15 as a starter, has 26 career interceptions to 23 touchdowns, a career passer rating of 70.3 and couldn’t keep a job with the QB starved Browns!

To make things worse, Brandon Weeden took 27 sacks in only eight games in 2013 because he struggles going through his progressions fast enough and holds the ball too long. When his protection did actually break down, he had practically zero escape ability. Brandon Weeden, who was a 1st round pick in 2012, is the definition of a BUST.

Why do the Cowboys need more depth at QB?

  • Tony Romo is 34 years old, he is coming off of his second back surgery, and there are still question marks about the OL despite the Cowboys efforts to improve it.
  • Travis Frederick is only in his second year and despite being a solid run blocker, he has struggled in pass protection.
  • Zack Martin is a rookie who never played guard before.
  • Makenzy Bernadeu was a career backup in Carolina who also had a suspect OL.
  • Ronald Leary is an undrafted free agent with a deteriorating knee condition.
  • Doug Free has been average or below for most of his career. Straight up inconsistent.
  • Tyron Smith is currently the only stud on this young OL.
  • The odds of Tony Romo getting re-injured are pretty high despite his elite escape ability and quick release. In recent years, Romo has sustained a broken collar bone, broken ribs twice (once with a punctured lung) and had two back surgeries. He is 34 years old which can only hinder his durability and quickness. Can you honestly say you will sleep at night knowing Brandon Weeden is our only hope if Tony goes down? I sure as hell can’t.

Should the Cowboys Pursue Kellen Moore as Insurance?

Kellen Moore vs Brandon Weeden

 

Kellen Moore was my favorite quarterback in the 2012 NFL draft: the same draft Brandon Weeden went 22nd overall. Despite all of the hype surrounding Andrew Luck and RGIII, I still contend Moore was the best QB in that class. In fact, he was one of my “The Guys No One Is Talking About”. If you actually care what I had to say about him 2 years ago, you can read it by clicking here.

I am not going to regurgitate what I said previously about Kellen Moore, but I will say this: I am still a firm believer that all some of these guys who were overlooked need, is a chance to prove themselves. Guys Like Warren Moon had to start in the CFL. Kurt Warner was bagging groceries. Kellen Moore is stuck behind Mattthew Stafford in Detroit.

Moore may become available if the Lions decide not to keep three QBs. Brandon Weeden had his chance in the NFL and failed miserably. Kellen Moore already knows Scott Linehan’s offense inside out. Linehan already said that Moore was the smartest QB he had ever been around. He has proven that he is a coach on the field and knows how to win. After all, he is the winningest QB in NCAA history at 50-3, was undefeated against the BCS schools and he won 3 out of 4 championships. His only championship loss coming when he started as a true freshman.

Russell Wilson There is a lot more to being a QB in the NFL than having prototypical size and a Howitzer for an arm. I will take a smart game manager over the ideal athlete every time, especially when he was one of the most accurate in NCAA history. Arm strength is a luxury, you can’t coach instincts, football IQ and anticipation. Especially not work ethic and Moore practically lives in the film room when he isn’t practicing on the field.

  • 2x All-American
    50รขโ‚ฌโ€œ3 as a starting QB
    Touchdown Club of Columbus Quarterback of the Year (2010 & 2011)
    2011 Maaco Bowl Las Vegas Boise State 56, Arizona State 24
    2010 Heisman Trophy finalist
    2010 Maaco Bowl Las Vegas Boise State 26, Utah 3
    FWAA All-American (2010)
    AP 3rd team (2010)
    First-team All-America (SI, ESPN, CBSSportsline) (2009)
    First-team All-WAC (2009, 2010)
    WAC Offensive Player of the Year (2009, 2010)
    WAC Championship (2008, 2009, 2010)
    2010 Fiesta Bowl Boise State 17, TCU 10
    Freshman All-American (2008)
    Second-team All-WAC (2008)
    WAC Freshman of the Year (2008)
    2008 Poinsettia Bowl Boise State 16, TCU 17

Kellen Moore vs Brandon Weeden

Kellen Moore has a career completion percentage of 69.8, 148 career touchdowns to only 28 interceptions (INT% 1.69), and a career passer rating of 169.15. People can try and sell me on size and arm strength all they want: at the end of the day, the numbers don’t lie. JaMarcus Russell could throw the ball in to the cheap seats, how did that work out? Tom Brady doesn’t have elite arm strength either, but how many times in a season does a QB throw the ball 80 yards? You can see what Jon Gruden had to say about Kellen Moore below.

You’re entitled to your opinion, but I am convinced that Moore is a better option than Brandon Weeden. The cynics used to tell me Cole Beasley was too small as well. At the end of the day, Kellen Moore knows how to win.
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  • californy

    Great Article Cas, It always great to hear about one of my favorite player and athletes. Base on what Detroit did this off season, It doesnt seem that Moore is in their long term plan at all.

    • Al

      she did a great job and she is spot on too.

  • californy

    Weeden is a terrible QB, despite having one of the better Offensive team last year. Cleveland rank 11th best last year offensively, they had the number 1 WR in Gordon, The third best TE in Jordon Cameron, they also had the 10th best line according to 2012 ranking of OL.

    Norv Turner a good QB and OC coach, and they had Cleveland going in the right direction, but even Norv saw what a bad QB Weeden was, when he benched him last year

    • Al

      Norv is one of the best at developing QB’s. If he benched him, you know he is bad.

  • californy

    Moore a genius when it come to attacking opposing defensive. The style that Linehan has in attacking defenses, I believe he learn that a lot from watching Boise Football, they used a lot of man in motion, and they love to attack the middle with inside screens and slants. Moore would be good here in Dallas since he already know this offenses. I believe we can get Moore as a late Camp cut and still be better than any back up we have on this team. I just hope it happen for us like I hope.

    • Al

      That would be huge. You are right on your assessment of Moore, he is like P Manning when it comes to being a field general.

  • Al

    Great job Cas! Moore is one of the best QB’s I ever studied. He has great poise in the pocket and never chokes under pressure. He is known as having ice for blood. His understanding of defenses is unmatched. His ability to command an offense is also elite. He is a genius.

  • osnappp

    I remember arguing about this two years ago. Kellen Moore does not have an NFL stat. So he does not have career completion percentage because he has played in his career yet. If he got draft to the dog shit browns he might be dead. You should hold off on pumping him up until he actually does something in a real game. which will probably never happen.

    • Al

      How much credibility do you have as an analyst? I see a troll afraid to show his face and hides behind a computer screen. The only time I have ever seen you comment on one of her articles is when you talk shit. What happened to you in the past when she proved you wrong? When you have the balls to do what we do and put scouting reports out there before the draft, you may have some credibility. Until then you are a grey box with a pseudonym.

      • osnappp

        Why do I have to be an analyst to have an opinion? what’s wrong with not agreeing? It’s better than always seeing the same people with their tongue in her butt hole. And what’s this bullshit about success rate? That’s like saying u have a success rate everytime u buy lotto tickets because u won a dollar a couple of times, what a joke.

        • Al

          The joke is on you sunshine; the success rate is how many of those undrafted guys she hit on. You are entitled to your opinions, but scouts, coaches and NFL front office people along with analysts from NFLN, ESPN and many other members of the National media follow her and this site because her/our opinions are credible. There is a difference.

    • Al

      As far as stats go, none of the players she wrote about had any stats when she graded them. I would advise you to look at her success rate before you continue to make yourself look like an ass. Just sayin dude.

    • same old snapp lol. I removed the lil spat between u and Al. This isn’t DC.com I like to keep it friendly here. The Browns had a better OL and the #1 WR in the NFL last year along with the 3rd best TE. If you want to pump up the guy who already failed, that’s your prerogative. However, I had similar debates with people many times, you can’t hate on a guy until he got his chance and failed. If you do, it makes you look real bad if he succeeds. I say I told you so to people all the time. It’s much more fulfilling to do that than waste my time trying to convince a cynic. That’s why I don’t debate anymore :D.

      • osnappp

        some people can’t handle a dissenting opinion. Anyway, I said nothing about being a weeden fan, but last time a checked Orton is the number 2. and I don’t see too many people that would give up 3 mil they already received. if he does actually retire, I think there will be better, safer options than taking a chance on moore. the reason I made the comment in the first place is because I remembered the argument from 2 years ago and I simply don’t think moore will get the chance, and if he does I don’t think he will do well enough to keep it. The odds are slim in my opinion. If you are right, then enjoy rubbing it in, but I give it three years before he takes a job in broadcasting or real estate. Maybe one year if he gets dropped to the practice squad this year. I didn’t mean to start a debate, but now that I know a conflicting opinions get Al’s panties in a bunch, I might give them more often;)

        • Who are these better safer options? It is a QB starved league. If you want to state your opinion, at least have some type of facts to back it up. ie. Name these options. State some facts as to why that person/persons is the better option etc. Otherwise you are just blowing hot air. ๐Ÿ˜€

          BTW BSU offered Moore the HC job when Petersen went to Washington because he was the only one smart enough to coach his system. He declined because he wanted to pursue his NFL career. I don’t see him in a booth or selling Real estate, he will end up a very successful coach following football.

        • It would also be nice if you could present a sound argument based on fact as to why Moore can’t make it in the NFL if given the chance. Again; opinions need to be based on facts.

          • osnappp

            we’ve already argued these points two years ago and you said you didn’t want to debate but i’ll say what I said then: he is a small, slow, system quarterback, of which type “most of the time” do not transition well into the nfl. I was right in saying he wouldn’t be drafted, and if he is so great, he probably would have gotten the opportunity to play somewhere. if some other team recognized this greatness, a team would have probably traded for him by now. As it stands today, nobody has given him a snap in a real game.in preseason he has 56% completion % 5 tds and 3 ints. i’d say that’s better than I thought he would do, but not the kind of eye popping stats that makes me think he could win a real game. to answer your question on safer options, weeden is one of them. he’s a guy that has actually played in games and has better real game stats than moore has in the preseason against 3rd stringers. I didn’t name other because the 3rd qbs will normally get cut at the 52 point, but here are some that will probably be cut this offseason: Christian Ponder, Mallett, Simms, T.Edwards, McGloin, C.McCoy. All are safer, bigger, faster, and have more game experience than Moore. That’s why I said wait till he does something until you talk him up. The cowboys taking a flyer on a small, slow, no game experience qb to be a back-up just because the guy is smart is a pretty big risk. so big, I bet the name has never even come up. unless someone was trying to get a laugh or get fired on purpose.

          • Okie dokie you expressed your whys. I have expressed mine in several articles. Now we just wait and see.

          • I will say one thing: I watched the tape on the pre season games and the crap they had him throwing to didn’t help much. Dropped passes, poor route running etc. He is not a system qb. you just described RGIII. They had to run a college offense for him. Moore was in the most complex offense in college. The only knock most have on him is size and athletic ability. I have to say, Aikman, Manning Brady are as immobile as they come. Moore is actually better at getting out of trouble than they are, In fact when I talked to Broaddus about Moore prior to that draft, he said Moore was better in college than Brady. You put Moore in a Walsh style WCO and he will thrive.
            You mentioned all guys who have already failed in the NFL. We need a young guy to groom. If they could waste 3 years on McGee, and are now wasting time on the scrubs behind Weeden, Moore is an upgrade whether you admit it or not. Not to mention, Moore already knows Linehans offense. No one on the current roster knows it as well.

  • Gabriel Carrasco

    Peyton Manning may choke in the playoffs a lot, but I don’t think there is a smarter player in league history. Kellen Moore seems to be Manning’s heir apparent.

    • Al

      I agree Gabe and unlike manning, who also choked at Tenn, Moore never chokes.

      • Gabriel Carrasco

        I think Manning will be a great coach one day.

  • californy

    I believe John Grudden SB QB Rich Gannon would be a good head coach, word had it as a player he lived in the film room. He technically went to back to back Championship games.. It would be nice to have John Grudden HC, with Rich Gannon as his QB coach and Kellen Moore as his QB of the future.

    Sorry I am trying to escape from JJ reality of Football which mean the streak of no SB victory will continue.

    • I would love to have Gruden as I have said many times, I think Danny White would be a good QB coach too.

  • Johnathan Nguyen

    We’ve been agreeing on Kellen for 2 years now, the question is, will the front office for the Cowboys pursue him? Kellen has the “IT” factor i would want in a QB. He is stone cold man! Grooming him for 2 to 3 years behind Romo and we can continue to hope for the rings. Awesome post Cas.

    • Gabriel Carrasco

      Nope the Saints are going to pick him up. Sean Payton will continue to build his legacy with an undersized, weak armed, UDFA. He wins a Superbowl, Payton is a lock for the Hall.

      • Johnathan Nguyen

        Unfortunately i think you are right! Still holding out hope for Cas and I Pet Cat though ๐Ÿ™‚ Wouldn’t that be something? The Star on Kellen’s helmet would be a dream come true for me.

        • Al

          A lot of us would like to see that

        • I have to agree that Sean Payton would be the one to grab him. I hope Jerry doesn’t watch another parade go by. This team needs to stop worrying about flash and sign football players.

          • Gabriel Carrasco

            So what if the Cowboys make a real push for him and the Saints just win, and knab him?

          • Al

            Don’t jinx us lol

      • I wouldn’t say weak armed, he threw a beautiful hail mary in the Nevada game with only a few seconds on the clock: only for the kicker to miss a chip shot. He has enough to get by

    • Thank You John. It’s nice to see you again. I hope they pursue him and Linehan already likes him plus he knows the offense. That is two positives.